We rent because we lived out of the country for a long time, we have two young children and at the moment we can't raise enough capital for a deposit on a house. We run two cars, we do a weekly shop, we have Sky TV, we don't go out much. Once we have paid all our monthly bills, we have nothing left and the whole cycle starts again the next month. Are other people struggling?I feel like we are the only one's struggling like this. My family and I live in a rented three bed house.
We are struggling too. i don't run a car or have a tv. we haven't had a holiday for years. all of our clothes are from charity shops or cast offs from friends. i don't have a social life and haven't been out in the evening for a couple of years. sometimes we run out of food and i don't eat so that the kids can. i dn't drink or smoke. every single day is a real struggle.I feel like we are the only one's struggling like this. My family and I live in a rented three bed house.
Sounds like you are doing better than the majority of people in the world.
I am stuggling too but I don't have sky and I don't run 2 cars. Find other sources of entertainment. Eg. WH Smith do a 10 quid a month deal where you get DVD's sent to you at home as quickly as you send the last one back. Maybe lose the sky and get something like that - have a family night in with popcorn etc. Do you really need 2 cars? I know you have kids, but what about a liftshare (google it there is a liftshare website) to sort out getting to work. Or even keep both cars but use it anyway to save fuel. As long as your debts are going down then you have a light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes, I'm sorry to say that most of us live month to month, and will never be able to do much better,
For all those do gooders, who commented on:
why have 2 cars
why have sky t.v
my answer is this: sometimes you have to have 2 cars, whilst your husband works and is using one, how do you do your weekly shop (supermarkets are usually situated on the outskirts) and how do you run your kids to after school activities - get a bus??? Most buses cost more that running a car! (where we come from anyway)
Yeah, I know about the planet and cutting back on emisions etc, but be practical!!
I'm with you on this one, sky t.v is not a necessity like some said, but hey if you can't afford to go out much you have to have some entertainment right?
Lets hope one of us wins the lottery soon! Yeah, I ';waste'; money on the lottery but I also may win too!! Good luck from the rest of us struggling to exist.
Frankly, other people are struggling a lot more than you.
At least at the end of the month you have a balance of 拢0- which is better than having a debt that grows every month which you'll never escape from.
You don't *need* Sky, you don't *need* a second car. How much petrol do you use? You can afford to eat- do you always buy the cheapest brands? Do you smoke? You don't go out ';much'; but you do go out, how much does that cost?
hi, i have to sympathsise with you. i have to rent a house as i do not earn enough to be able to get a mortgage.
i have a 6 year old daughter and pay for childcare, my rent, run a car etc. we only just have enough money coming in to cover our outgoings (we don't waste money or have many luxuries) - and i can't see it ever getting any better if i stay on my own - even if i managed to get a full time job paying 拢30k a year i would be no better off than i am now with more tax and NI to pay, losing my tax credits and having more childcare and traveling expenses to pay out for!
i work hard and love helping others but feel like doing things 'right' doesn't get you anywhere in life!
Yep most people and things just getting worse - my partner works I have 15 month old and thanks to kind relatives work part time with no child care cost but we still have no money left for nices after pay bills/mortgage. And things are getting worse I'm afraid I work in the mortgage industry and we are slowing down to a practical halt with no one lending and ridiculas fees and having a knock on affect everywhere.
Plus food, electric, gas,PETROL all increased this year, I hope things improve but just see it getting worse.
hi
i sympathise with you. Alot of people are struggling at the moment, with debts they cannot pay, stuggling to get through till next payday.
I have debts of 拢22.000 that i have no hope of paying in this lifetime. I dont have a car as its unaffordable. I shop at the cheapest foodstores and yet my money does not go far.
Maybe you should consider getting rid of one of the cars? would public transport be cheaper? I dont really know how to help, but all I can say is it looks like it will get worse.
well try to reduce the number of cars if you can. It helps the planet as well!
You don't need Sky T.V. get rid of it! Freeview has many channels and it's... free!
Try and cut down on food shopping. Buy from markets.
Anyway to get another job?
Look at houses in other areas - perhaps there will be cheaper prices (not London!)
Don't worry, a three bedroom house isn't bad going when you only have two kids!
xxxx
Everyone struggles. But you need to look at necessity vs. need. Do you really need two cars can you guys manage with one? How much are you spending on weekly food can you start using generic. All the little things do add up and can help free up your money. I have never heard of sky t.v. but if its cable get rid of it and either start reading more or try and rent movies for free at your local library. Just remember necessity vs. want. Oh and try and downsize on the rental that would help I'm sure too.
Yup. I live in a 3 bed house and I have to share a bedroom with my sister. My parents will never be able to buy a house. We only have 1 car but walk most of the time to save petrol for emergencies. We don't have sky, but do have digital. We get buy because all we need is love
Good luck
xxx
Yes - time's are tough now. For lots of people.
Can you get by on one car? Although most of the money goes when you buy rather than running - but it's cheaper to use public transport if not much fun. And Sky is a luxury - there's free-to-view digital soon, and Freesat as well - fewer channels but if you need to economise. Try shopping less frequently but buy in bulk from wholesalers.
Have a look at this site:
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/
He has lots of little tips that can help a bit.
My roof's in dire need of repair but the insurance company will only pay 拢500 for recent damage in high wind, and it's about 拢8k for a new roof, so I just have to leave it, which is a worry. I can't afford to get it fixed. You're not alone!
yes and rose is right about the cars. we are struggling too. up to 15 months ago I had a job. losing it cut our income in two. however I still need a car to look for work and if I find it, to go to work. All our savings went to pay for our son 1st year at university. We have cable TV because it is part of our rent.
you call running two cars struggling,get rid of them to start with (use the bus) get rid off sky its all repeats anyhow ,start buying your shopping from cheaper stores. if you want to know what struggling is try working and bringing up 4 children on less than 15k a year ..2 cars-----luxury
you live in a 3 bedroom Rented house,you have two young children whose future you have to look out for, youve lived abroard for a Long time,you run two cars, you have SKY T.V and you ask why ??--DUMB??
come to your senses!!
You call THAT struggling? When my dad left my mom had to pay for the house, buy all the food and look after 4 kids while trying to hold down a job and we never even had one car and you call that struggling?
I call it pathetic
The economy is in stagflation..slow economy with rising inflation. It is not easy out there now. Renting maybe better now than owning with the falling home prices. If I had more info , maybe I could advise you better...Hang in there !
Do you need to run 2 cars? Everyone is struggling at the moment, you've just got to try and cut down on the things you don't really need.
You are not alone. Visit ...
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/
... for help, advice and - if necessary - a shoulder to lean on.
Try and cut on the sky and try with 1 car. Thats all my advice.
Yes
Yes!! It is just me and my partner, we live in a 1 bed flat and i can only work part time because of illness. You are not alone in your struggles.
EDIT - People say ';do you need two cars';, these are probably people that drive around in gas guzzling Land Rovers, if you have two small cars, then whats the problem? As for sky tv, it is not a necessity, but cancelling the contract would probably incur a fee equal to 2 monthly payments, why not just continue the contract and get your use out of it!! We only have 1 car and i walk to work, my mum takes me to my hospital appointments and my overdraft pays for our grocery shopping, but thats how it is at the minute.
Keep your head up! :)
oh my god you call that struggling? god, i know im gonna get loads of thumbs down but i dont give a ****
you dont need sky at all, my wife died three years ago (God bless her soul) and my children and I struggled for years. i have four children (three girls and a boy) and we manage to survive. I didn't have sky, but it costs 拢50 a month, imagine what you could do with that. i used to walk everywhere, or take a bus, until i got a job outside of the city, when i NEEDED a car.
shop at aldi, or a cheap shop. why do you need a three bedroom house for two young children? share a room
god you fail at life
Well, you have the answer-lots pf people struggling!
There are interesting comparisons to draw. In the 50s there were not the consumer choices to buy, so people gotr by with less as a matter of course
Last week(?) a report came out proposing certain levels of provision that were a minimum for comfort. Sky (or equivalent was one, smoking, not. http://www.jrf.org.uk/pressroom/releases鈥?/a>
is the link
I can see your problems and am myself in the same position with 5 daughters to raise and a private rental, Husband works but its never enough. We only have a 5 seater car so everyone walks everywhere, the car is only used to go to work as its 30 miles for the hubby each way.
i think all you can do is nip in the belt for while and i mean really tightly, i am starting work full time and all my children are under 9 so life will be interesting, lol. I do think its a bad situation when i cant be with and provide for my children at the same time. But its children that matter, try explaining to them the situation and make sure they understand, this helps you in many ways least of all the I WANT syndrome.
I think the situation is only going to get worse so the quicker you can start to do it the better.
I would also suggest if school is under a mile each way fresh air is good. mine have been known to walk 4 miles to see a friend, if you can distract them they dont get so bored and it gives you more quality time. Although you might end up with lots of pebbles/leaves/pinecones or the other latest collectable
some good answers here.
definately check out moneysavingexpert.com as they have some great suggestions from using ecoballs when washing (拢30 but last for over 300 washes), to swapping utility providers and comparison websites for everything you want to buy.
look at the food inyour trolley - are you buying lots of processed food and ready meals? try to find cheaper alternatives - you can do amazing meals with mince or pasta relatively cheaply. look for special offers such as bogof.
I really do think you can manage without SKy tv, and do you have a mobile phone contract that you can manage without? My husband goes to a working mans club to watch the football rather than paying a monthly subscription to SKytv., and you can hire DVDs cheap from the library.
check that you are getting all the benefits, tax credits etc that you are entitlted to , and maybe change your job to something closed to home so you dont need two cars?
sit down and make a budget and try to stick to it........and in answer to your question........yes we are all struggling!!!
Tuesday, February 23, 2010
What are the average bill costs a month for a single person in a 2/3 bed house in the UK?
I know you can't give exact costs because you don't know how I live etc.. just want to know other people's costs to get a bit of an idea.
I want to know the normal bill costs (Gas, Elec, Water, TV, any other bills that are essential) for one person living in a 2/3 bed house in Mid Glamorgan, Wales.
I would watch quite a bit of TV, and use a computer a lot but not much else to take up electricity apart from the obvious like lighting. I'd prob use the washing machine once a week and wouldn't be using a tumble dryer. I'll rarely cook.
I'll be strict with heating and only put it on when its absolutely freazing. I'll be using a shower, rarely running baths, don't know if that makes a diff with the water costs.
ThanksWhat are the average bill costs a month for a single person in a 2/3 bed house in the UK?
In my experience there won't be a massive difference in costs between one person and two, as long as you both have the same lifestyle. Still the same lights, tv electricity, heating etc. Maybe a small difference in washing machine running costs only.
Two of us share a 3-bed house (previously a 2-bed flat) and are out at work all day, no kids etc. Our monthly essential bills are approx (based on annual averages):
Council tax - 拢100 per month (if over 12 mths but 25% reduction for single person)
Electricity - 拢20 per month
Gas - 拢20 per month (mimimal heating plus hot water %26amp; cooking)
Water - 拢16 a month (based on estimated usage I think)
TV license - 拢11 a month
As phone and sky tv etc are not essential I haven't included.
In total then about 拢140, as you are own your own, I'd imagine it will be more like 拢120 - 拢130.
Seems loads when you aren't splitting it!What are the average bill costs a month for a single person in a 2/3 bed house in the UK?
If your on a meter with water then it will but otherwise i spend around 拢70 a month on heat, light and water. I pay minimum water rates 拢6.69 a month and have prob 2 baths a day!!! I'm clean!! I use the washer everyday am permanantly on the xbox with the stereo on and cook everynight also i use the dryer if the weather is naff so hope that helps???
i'm in a 3 bed house with 2 kids
gas - 40 a month
leccy - 21 a month
water 40 a month
tv licence - 12 a month
virgin media xl tv and m broadband - 31.50 a month
I want to know the normal bill costs (Gas, Elec, Water, TV, any other bills that are essential) for one person living in a 2/3 bed house in Mid Glamorgan, Wales.
I would watch quite a bit of TV, and use a computer a lot but not much else to take up electricity apart from the obvious like lighting. I'd prob use the washing machine once a week and wouldn't be using a tumble dryer. I'll rarely cook.
I'll be strict with heating and only put it on when its absolutely freazing. I'll be using a shower, rarely running baths, don't know if that makes a diff with the water costs.
ThanksWhat are the average bill costs a month for a single person in a 2/3 bed house in the UK?
In my experience there won't be a massive difference in costs between one person and two, as long as you both have the same lifestyle. Still the same lights, tv electricity, heating etc. Maybe a small difference in washing machine running costs only.
Two of us share a 3-bed house (previously a 2-bed flat) and are out at work all day, no kids etc. Our monthly essential bills are approx (based on annual averages):
Council tax - 拢100 per month (if over 12 mths but 25% reduction for single person)
Electricity - 拢20 per month
Gas - 拢20 per month (mimimal heating plus hot water %26amp; cooking)
Water - 拢16 a month (based on estimated usage I think)
TV license - 拢11 a month
As phone and sky tv etc are not essential I haven't included.
In total then about 拢140, as you are own your own, I'd imagine it will be more like 拢120 - 拢130.
Seems loads when you aren't splitting it!What are the average bill costs a month for a single person in a 2/3 bed house in the UK?
If your on a meter with water then it will but otherwise i spend around 拢70 a month on heat, light and water. I pay minimum water rates 拢6.69 a month and have prob 2 baths a day!!! I'm clean!! I use the washer everyday am permanantly on the xbox with the stereo on and cook everynight also i use the dryer if the weather is naff so hope that helps???
i'm in a 3 bed house with 2 kids
gas - 40 a month
leccy - 21 a month
water 40 a month
tv licence - 12 a month
virgin media xl tv and m broadband - 31.50 a month
How many bedrooms am i entitled to with 6 people living in a 2 bed house at the mo?
me and my partner, have three children my sister and a dog which equals 6 people and a dog of course, ! we are cramped in a tiny 2 bedroom box house.
i feel like im living in a shoe,! as my 2 daughters share the smallest room at the moment, there is no room for a chest of draws or a wardrobe with the two bed's so not only have i got my sister living in my living room but i have six peoples clothes in my room, i cant move i cant even get to my own wardrobe,! i suffer with depression and this is not doing me any good !.
so im just wondering what to do as im so unhappy with our living conditions we have been waiting on the council list for eight months now.
i have called environmental health out, but this was before my sister had moved in, now things are a lot worse, does any one know what i can do ? please please help me !
kind regards mandaHow many bedrooms am i entitled to with 6 people living in a 2 bed house at the mo?
I see you are in the UK, from the language used. Okay, here goes.
There should be no children over 10 years old sharing a room with a child of the opposite sex. Only couples should be sharing rooms, or people of the same sex, or children under 10.
The 2 girls can share a room with your sister.
All rooms, except the kitchen, can be considered suitable for sleeping in.
The dog does not count.
You cannot ';deliberately'; overcrowd your house. You may be committing an offence if you do, and the council is not obliged to rehouse you. How did your sister end up living there?
If you are the tenant, rather than your sister, and you get rehoused, the council is not obliged to consider her needs, and not obliged to give her the tenancy to the house you are leaving.
There is tremendous strain on public housing stock right now. Everyone else considers their own need to be as important to them as yours is to you.
Have you and your partner considered working harder, increasing your combined income, and buying a bigger house?How many bedrooms am i entitled to with 6 people living in a 2 bed house at the mo?
Get rid of your sister and the dog for a start. It may be difficult, but you need to start to take more responsibility for your life and not rely on everyone else for what you regard as ';entitlement';. Try to find a job and save for a bigger or better place, getting out to work and being in control may help you feel less depressed too.
it's a wonder you havent had legal trouble. is sister on the lease? probably not. so you are probably in violation of the lease already. probably should tell the sister she needs to find her own place.
you need to get a better place; bigger. why you entitled to anything? is this welfare? if so you prolly in viloation of their rules as well.
You want a better life? Work for it like the rest of us!
I am sick and tired of paying for children that I did not create.
Grow up and take responsibility for yourself. I see you've managed to get to a computer, so you can't be a complete moron. Get a job and make your life better. Stop stealing my money to support yourself and your illegitimate children.
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Do you have a son? Of you do then you should get a 3 bed...if your children are one sex then not...also is your sister a minor? Under 18? If she is over 18 she wont count as a dependent....she HAS to be dependent on you to count.
You are entitled to what you pay for!?! Why would you all squish into that small place? Is it even legal to have that many people and that many kids in one place? Get a job and move!!
All children can share until 10 yrs old, it depends on the age of your sister, if she is over 18 she wouldn't count so if the kids are under 10 then 2 bedrooms is all they would allow you.
As many as you like, you and your partner can get a job work really hard and buy your own house.
How about get a job and PAY for a bigger place. Nothing worse than welfare people whining about free stuff.
I'm sorry, I must be missing something. Entitled?
Your sister could move out maybe?
Manda,
Apparently no one ever told you that the world does not owe you a darn thing! So, here it is:
NO ONE OWES YOU A COMFORTABLE LIFESTYLE JUST BECAUSE YOU SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND HAD SOME KIDS.
I've had a job since I was eight years old. I've saved money my entire life so that I wouldn't have to steal from others to support myself.
Why should the profits of my decades of hard work, sacrifice, and savings be taken from me and given to you? Exactly how depressed do you think that makes me?
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Entitled? Excuse me, did you say ENTITLED???
You steal my money to pay for the choices that you have made and you think you're entitled to more because you're sad about your situation?
How about the way it should be: You live in a box under a bridge somewhere and your children are put into a foster home where intelligent people can raise them to be productive citizens instead of another generation of sponges.
What is wrong with people like you? Instead of being grateful for your FREE RIDE, you whine and cry that you need more. You want more? Do what the rest of us do and GET A JOB! Work more. Learn new skills and take on more responsibility. THAT is how you get more in this life.
I started working at age 12 with a paper route, and I haven't stopped since. I never thought that anyone owed me anything simply because I'm here. People like you disgust me. Why should I have to sacrifice my life savings in order to give you your proper comfort level?
I guess you'd like a 5000 square foot mansion with a pool as well? How about a maid so that you don't get depressed cleaning that big house?
I agree with the others. Grow up and take responsibility for your choices. You know why other people have better lives? They deserve them. You should be grateful that you have what you do. Many working people do not have so much.
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It sounds like the kids' clothes need to be moved to the living room with your sister. I understand that the living room is her space, but it's also probably the biggest room with the most space for those chests of drawers containing the kids' clothes. You are already so crammed together in the bedrooms that every little bit should help. I am sorry that I cannot make more suggestions for you, but it is difficult (as you know!) fitting six people and a dog into a two-bedroom house. Good luck with everything.
If you thought your property was already overcrowded, then why did your sister move in? If you are in England, the legal definition of overcrowding may be different from what you perceive to be overcrowding. The number of rooms you'll need depends on the ages of your children. The link in the source will tell you how to calculate this. If your sister was not included when you applied for a transfer, don't include her in your calculations.
If you suffer from depression, perhaps you could speak to your GP to write a letter that you can take to your council? You may be able to get reasonable preference if your housing situation is making your depression worse.
wow some irrate answers you have here! Ok, I doubt you are ';entitled'; to anything, seeing as you are probably in breach of your lease by having your sister living with you. Perhaps you could club together with your sister and get a bigger place? if not, perhaps its a case of suck it and see.
There really are worse things in the world my love, especially seeing as you've only been on the council list for 8 months. when that turns into 8 years, try posting this again, for now, be grateful you have a roof over your head. I'm sorry you've had a lot of animosity towards this question, and I completely agree with the majority of the answers, but you need to first help yourself before expecting others to.
You're depressed? I'm paying for a bunch of children that aren't mine. I didn't knock you up, so why should I have to pay for your kids? THAT is depressing!
You know what makes me feel good? Having a purpose in life besides being a leech. Maybe if you got a job and started contributing something to society instead of stealing from hard working people, you'd feel better.
Like another poster said, GROW UP! You had children, but you are still one yourself. We don't owe you a darn thing! Instead of being grateful for having a roof over your heads and food in your bellies, you cry about being cramped. Boo hoo. Many working people don't have it as nice as you do.
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hello, well first of all you %26amp; your husband along with children comes first for the most part. what i would do is me %26amp; my husband would sit down %26amp; talk about whats going %26amp; how can we make it better for us %26amp; the children , like taking on a second job maybe getting rid of the dog just for temporarily, until we get a bigger place at least. by me having a sisters i can understand why you let her come %26amp; stay with you maybe because she didn't have anywhere to go, or maybe she did but it was in heart to just let her come %26amp; stay regardless. but its not healthy if you suffer from depression you need to talk to someone because if you don't you can have a break down or something worse %26amp; your family don't need that especially your children.
Why are people assuming that you don't work? I don't see anything in your question about you being unemployed.
Just because someone lives in a council house, doesn't mean that they're not paying rent.
These people obviously don't have a feckin scooby what they're talking about.
I know that it's very difficult to get a council house (luckily I managed to buy a place, as the council were offering me nothing), but make sure you have medical points. If you don't, get a line from your GP, because you need all the points you can get. And, obviously points for overcrowding.
You need to keep on hassling them. Keep going to see them, or phone them, all the time. They will get sick of it, and eventually offer you something else.
The system has changed here now, don't know what it's like where you are, but here people have to actually go and apply for a house (which is advertised in the paper or online) and tell the Housing that they're interested in it. They say that it's not a points system, so I have no idea how they prioritise it. But, good luck anyway.red hair
i feel like im living in a shoe,! as my 2 daughters share the smallest room at the moment, there is no room for a chest of draws or a wardrobe with the two bed's so not only have i got my sister living in my living room but i have six peoples clothes in my room, i cant move i cant even get to my own wardrobe,! i suffer with depression and this is not doing me any good !.
so im just wondering what to do as im so unhappy with our living conditions we have been waiting on the council list for eight months now.
i have called environmental health out, but this was before my sister had moved in, now things are a lot worse, does any one know what i can do ? please please help me !
kind regards mandaHow many bedrooms am i entitled to with 6 people living in a 2 bed house at the mo?
I see you are in the UK, from the language used. Okay, here goes.
There should be no children over 10 years old sharing a room with a child of the opposite sex. Only couples should be sharing rooms, or people of the same sex, or children under 10.
The 2 girls can share a room with your sister.
All rooms, except the kitchen, can be considered suitable for sleeping in.
The dog does not count.
You cannot ';deliberately'; overcrowd your house. You may be committing an offence if you do, and the council is not obliged to rehouse you. How did your sister end up living there?
If you are the tenant, rather than your sister, and you get rehoused, the council is not obliged to consider her needs, and not obliged to give her the tenancy to the house you are leaving.
There is tremendous strain on public housing stock right now. Everyone else considers their own need to be as important to them as yours is to you.
Have you and your partner considered working harder, increasing your combined income, and buying a bigger house?How many bedrooms am i entitled to with 6 people living in a 2 bed house at the mo?
Get rid of your sister and the dog for a start. It may be difficult, but you need to start to take more responsibility for your life and not rely on everyone else for what you regard as ';entitlement';. Try to find a job and save for a bigger or better place, getting out to work and being in control may help you feel less depressed too.
it's a wonder you havent had legal trouble. is sister on the lease? probably not. so you are probably in violation of the lease already. probably should tell the sister she needs to find her own place.
you need to get a better place; bigger. why you entitled to anything? is this welfare? if so you prolly in viloation of their rules as well.
You want a better life? Work for it like the rest of us!
I am sick and tired of paying for children that I did not create.
Grow up and take responsibility for yourself. I see you've managed to get to a computer, so you can't be a complete moron. Get a job and make your life better. Stop stealing my money to support yourself and your illegitimate children.
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Do you have a son? Of you do then you should get a 3 bed...if your children are one sex then not...also is your sister a minor? Under 18? If she is over 18 she wont count as a dependent....she HAS to be dependent on you to count.
You are entitled to what you pay for!?! Why would you all squish into that small place? Is it even legal to have that many people and that many kids in one place? Get a job and move!!
All children can share until 10 yrs old, it depends on the age of your sister, if she is over 18 she wouldn't count so if the kids are under 10 then 2 bedrooms is all they would allow you.
As many as you like, you and your partner can get a job work really hard and buy your own house.
How about get a job and PAY for a bigger place. Nothing worse than welfare people whining about free stuff.
I'm sorry, I must be missing something. Entitled?
Your sister could move out maybe?
Manda,
Apparently no one ever told you that the world does not owe you a darn thing! So, here it is:
NO ONE OWES YOU A COMFORTABLE LIFESTYLE JUST BECAUSE YOU SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND HAD SOME KIDS.
I've had a job since I was eight years old. I've saved money my entire life so that I wouldn't have to steal from others to support myself.
Why should the profits of my decades of hard work, sacrifice, and savings be taken from me and given to you? Exactly how depressed do you think that makes me?
.
Entitled? Excuse me, did you say ENTITLED???
You steal my money to pay for the choices that you have made and you think you're entitled to more because you're sad about your situation?
How about the way it should be: You live in a box under a bridge somewhere and your children are put into a foster home where intelligent people can raise them to be productive citizens instead of another generation of sponges.
What is wrong with people like you? Instead of being grateful for your FREE RIDE, you whine and cry that you need more. You want more? Do what the rest of us do and GET A JOB! Work more. Learn new skills and take on more responsibility. THAT is how you get more in this life.
I started working at age 12 with a paper route, and I haven't stopped since. I never thought that anyone owed me anything simply because I'm here. People like you disgust me. Why should I have to sacrifice my life savings in order to give you your proper comfort level?
I guess you'd like a 5000 square foot mansion with a pool as well? How about a maid so that you don't get depressed cleaning that big house?
I agree with the others. Grow up and take responsibility for your choices. You know why other people have better lives? They deserve them. You should be grateful that you have what you do. Many working people do not have so much.
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It sounds like the kids' clothes need to be moved to the living room with your sister. I understand that the living room is her space, but it's also probably the biggest room with the most space for those chests of drawers containing the kids' clothes. You are already so crammed together in the bedrooms that every little bit should help. I am sorry that I cannot make more suggestions for you, but it is difficult (as you know!) fitting six people and a dog into a two-bedroom house. Good luck with everything.
If you thought your property was already overcrowded, then why did your sister move in? If you are in England, the legal definition of overcrowding may be different from what you perceive to be overcrowding. The number of rooms you'll need depends on the ages of your children. The link in the source will tell you how to calculate this. If your sister was not included when you applied for a transfer, don't include her in your calculations.
If you suffer from depression, perhaps you could speak to your GP to write a letter that you can take to your council? You may be able to get reasonable preference if your housing situation is making your depression worse.
wow some irrate answers you have here! Ok, I doubt you are ';entitled'; to anything, seeing as you are probably in breach of your lease by having your sister living with you. Perhaps you could club together with your sister and get a bigger place? if not, perhaps its a case of suck it and see.
There really are worse things in the world my love, especially seeing as you've only been on the council list for 8 months. when that turns into 8 years, try posting this again, for now, be grateful you have a roof over your head. I'm sorry you've had a lot of animosity towards this question, and I completely agree with the majority of the answers, but you need to first help yourself before expecting others to.
You're depressed? I'm paying for a bunch of children that aren't mine. I didn't knock you up, so why should I have to pay for your kids? THAT is depressing!
You know what makes me feel good? Having a purpose in life besides being a leech. Maybe if you got a job and started contributing something to society instead of stealing from hard working people, you'd feel better.
Like another poster said, GROW UP! You had children, but you are still one yourself. We don't owe you a darn thing! Instead of being grateful for having a roof over your heads and food in your bellies, you cry about being cramped. Boo hoo. Many working people don't have it as nice as you do.
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hello, well first of all you %26amp; your husband along with children comes first for the most part. what i would do is me %26amp; my husband would sit down %26amp; talk about whats going %26amp; how can we make it better for us %26amp; the children , like taking on a second job maybe getting rid of the dog just for temporarily, until we get a bigger place at least. by me having a sisters i can understand why you let her come %26amp; stay with you maybe because she didn't have anywhere to go, or maybe she did but it was in heart to just let her come %26amp; stay regardless. but its not healthy if you suffer from depression you need to talk to someone because if you don't you can have a break down or something worse %26amp; your family don't need that especially your children.
Why are people assuming that you don't work? I don't see anything in your question about you being unemployed.
Just because someone lives in a council house, doesn't mean that they're not paying rent.
These people obviously don't have a feckin scooby what they're talking about.
I know that it's very difficult to get a council house (luckily I managed to buy a place, as the council were offering me nothing), but make sure you have medical points. If you don't, get a line from your GP, because you need all the points you can get. And, obviously points for overcrowding.
You need to keep on hassling them. Keep going to see them, or phone them, all the time. They will get sick of it, and eventually offer you something else.
The system has changed here now, don't know what it's like where you are, but here people have to actually go and apply for a house (which is advertised in the paper or online) and tell the Housing that they're interested in it. They say that it's not a points system, so I have no idea how they prioritise it. But, good luck anyway.
What can i do if my family & I are overcrowded in our 3 bed house?
we are top of the housing list in our area for a 4 bed house BUT we could be waiting years...its affecting the whole family...%26amp; i've been told its ILLEGAL for my boys aged 15, 7 %26amp; 1 to share a 12X12 room
please help i've been onto MP %26amp; shelter %26amp; need some more advice?
thank you so much in advanceWhat can i do if my family %26amp; I are overcrowded in our 3 bed house?
the rules have recently changed and if u have same sex children with a bigger then 6 year difference then they shouldnt be in the same room, so ur priority will change, but u say ur already at the top so keep on at the council and make sure ur kept in the loop over new properties avalible.
it is not illegal its just a guideline to follow.
are these boys ur only kids, y not have baby in with u and the other 2 can have there own room each
also i know its a big decision but have u thought about moving out the area, cos if theres only 12 properties and there all taken u may never get housed in one of them, but in the borough next to u they may have a bigger property ready to live inWhat can i do if my family %26amp; I are overcrowded in our 3 bed house?
I hope it all works out for you
And I hope it doesn't.
I also don't see why you need 4 bedrooms. You could have the baby in with you for a couple of years until the 15-yr-old goes away to college or gets his own place. Then the two youngest boys can share a room.
I wouldn't worry too much about the legality thing - as long as the children are well looked after, it's unlikely that any action would be taken against you.
I don't care what other people think, but I am going to stick up for the questioner here.
It is ok for people who have well paid jobs and can afford to buy the houses at the current prices.
What about the people who have jobs on the lower end of the scale, like the people who push your groceries through the till every week??
Try buying a house on that kind of wage nowadays.
So you are saying that people who can't afford to buy a house, shouldn't have kids.
You need to take the initiative and move to a house of your choice. Sounds as if you live in a socialistic country where the state gives you most everything but in return you must abide by all of their many rules. Do they tell you when you can go to the bathroom too ? I hope everyone in the USA can read this and think twice about electing a socialist such as obammamamma for president. Last time I checked, in a capitalistic country, each individual has the right to choose the size and type of house he lives in. Long live Capitalism !
Aren't you the same person who came on to Y!Answers moaning that someone you know kicked your door in, as a result it wouldn't close properly and it was a danger because you have so many kids and one is autistic... But! you didn't actually pay for it to get fixed for something stupid like four years because you said the council should pay for it and then slagged off the posters who said that if you were so worried you should have fixed it yourself years ago..?
Yes... You are... So, Hmm...
I know several people who planned their future instead of living each moment as it comes, didn't have kids they couldn't afford, got fairly well paid jobs even without a college education, bought their own houses and are living a reasonably comfortable lifestyle... Then they had kids...
It's not hard you know... You just needed to keep your legs closed or use contraception... You don't need to have your tubes tied if you make the effort not to have children.
I understand that this might sound harsh but have you ever actually tried fending for yourself and not depending on other people to bail you out all the time ?
I'm sick of people thinking that society owes them a living and I can tell you that in no way shape or form should my tax money be used to help someone who is either too stubborn or stupid to help themselves.
Report my answer and thumbs down me if you like... I rest safe in the knowledge that I speak the truth and although the truth hurts you have no-one to blame for that particular pain but yourself.
There is a 10 year gap between my eldest brother and my youngest brother. We all slept in one room whilst my sister slept in the other.
I didnt see the council rushing to rehouse us.....
....oh thats probably because mum and dad worked and brought their own house!!
I agree with the first guy, you should have thought about it first, my parents had to buy their house, and why on earth you need 4 bed rooms beats me, by the time the last one is 7 the first one will have left you, you made your bed lie in it
Spend less on unwanted luxuries and rent Private housing. Contraception, or abstinence if you are not married, are alternatives to sterilisation.
Try to convince the local council that you are from Afghanistan.
Because your children are all boys the law is slightly different than having boys and girls where they must be given separate rooms.
And I also agree with the comment that you should look closely at your circumstances before deciding to expand your family.
my grandmother is one of 12,,they managed? could you put a conservetery on the back and use that as a bedroom ,only trying to help
I know someone who has 4 boys in one bedroom and they seem to manage. You can't expect things to be handed to you on a plate I am afraid.
Write to the Ealing Council,If they can a house to an unmarried mother whose is a immigrant, they maybe able to help you.
Possibly you should have thought of this before 'expanding' your family, and not having the means to buy your own house?
hear hear, Super couldn't have put it any better and his answer mirrors my distaste for the parasites who prefer to leech off everyone else
Have you thought of housing exchange?
If you google it there are loads of schemes - here's a couple to get you started
I feel so damn sorry for you, there was 12 kids in my family and most of the time we had 3 or 4 cousins staying with us. In the summer months we moved our beds outside and battled the mosquitoes, rattlesnakes, coons and possums. Not once did my mom and dad ask people that had nothing to do with the size of our family for a bigger house. What the hell is this world coming to?
Gavmel you got it. If you can't afford a house you sure as hell can't afford kids. Why do people think they have a right to the pleasure of making babies, and then expect the taxpayer to pay for the raising of them?
It is hard living in a place that you feel is too small but at least you have a council house - you and your family have the sort of security you would never have in private rental properties! You have 3 bedrooms. Do you only have one sitting room or do you have a dining room as well. If you do, this could be turned into a bedroom.
In your situation, I would be finding a bed that could be made to look like a sofa in the living room and use that myself and then give the 15 year old and your daughter their own room, leaving the two younger boys together. Yes, it is hard but at least the two who need their own space would have it. As a mother you should know that your needs come last within the family. Having to sleep in the living room is something that many parents have to do. I don't know why you have four kids but I', going to take it for granted that your partner has either left you with the kids or there is a good reason why you are no longer together.
|f there are only 12 suitable houses in the area and they all have families in then what is the council supposed to do? It can't just conjour up a house for you. You will have to wait until one of these houses becomes available. Your MP and Shelter can't order the council to build you a property. You will have to be patient and manage until then.
please help i've been onto MP %26amp; shelter %26amp; need some more advice?
thank you so much in advanceWhat can i do if my family %26amp; I are overcrowded in our 3 bed house?
the rules have recently changed and if u have same sex children with a bigger then 6 year difference then they shouldnt be in the same room, so ur priority will change, but u say ur already at the top so keep on at the council and make sure ur kept in the loop over new properties avalible.
it is not illegal its just a guideline to follow.
are these boys ur only kids, y not have baby in with u and the other 2 can have there own room each
also i know its a big decision but have u thought about moving out the area, cos if theres only 12 properties and there all taken u may never get housed in one of them, but in the borough next to u they may have a bigger property ready to live inWhat can i do if my family %26amp; I are overcrowded in our 3 bed house?
I hope it all works out for you
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I also don't see why you need 4 bedrooms. You could have the baby in with you for a couple of years until the 15-yr-old goes away to college or gets his own place. Then the two youngest boys can share a room.
I wouldn't worry too much about the legality thing - as long as the children are well looked after, it's unlikely that any action would be taken against you.
I don't care what other people think, but I am going to stick up for the questioner here.
It is ok for people who have well paid jobs and can afford to buy the houses at the current prices.
What about the people who have jobs on the lower end of the scale, like the people who push your groceries through the till every week??
Try buying a house on that kind of wage nowadays.
So you are saying that people who can't afford to buy a house, shouldn't have kids.
You need to take the initiative and move to a house of your choice. Sounds as if you live in a socialistic country where the state gives you most everything but in return you must abide by all of their many rules. Do they tell you when you can go to the bathroom too ? I hope everyone in the USA can read this and think twice about electing a socialist such as obammamamma for president. Last time I checked, in a capitalistic country, each individual has the right to choose the size and type of house he lives in. Long live Capitalism !
Aren't you the same person who came on to Y!Answers moaning that someone you know kicked your door in, as a result it wouldn't close properly and it was a danger because you have so many kids and one is autistic... But! you didn't actually pay for it to get fixed for something stupid like four years because you said the council should pay for it and then slagged off the posters who said that if you were so worried you should have fixed it yourself years ago..?
Yes... You are... So, Hmm...
I know several people who planned their future instead of living each moment as it comes, didn't have kids they couldn't afford, got fairly well paid jobs even without a college education, bought their own houses and are living a reasonably comfortable lifestyle... Then they had kids...
It's not hard you know... You just needed to keep your legs closed or use contraception... You don't need to have your tubes tied if you make the effort not to have children.
I understand that this might sound harsh but have you ever actually tried fending for yourself and not depending on other people to bail you out all the time ?
I'm sick of people thinking that society owes them a living and I can tell you that in no way shape or form should my tax money be used to help someone who is either too stubborn or stupid to help themselves.
Report my answer and thumbs down me if you like... I rest safe in the knowledge that I speak the truth and although the truth hurts you have no-one to blame for that particular pain but yourself.
There is a 10 year gap between my eldest brother and my youngest brother. We all slept in one room whilst my sister slept in the other.
I didnt see the council rushing to rehouse us.....
....oh thats probably because mum and dad worked and brought their own house!!
I agree with the first guy, you should have thought about it first, my parents had to buy their house, and why on earth you need 4 bed rooms beats me, by the time the last one is 7 the first one will have left you, you made your bed lie in it
Spend less on unwanted luxuries and rent Private housing. Contraception, or abstinence if you are not married, are alternatives to sterilisation.
Try to convince the local council that you are from Afghanistan.
Because your children are all boys the law is slightly different than having boys and girls where they must be given separate rooms.
And I also agree with the comment that you should look closely at your circumstances before deciding to expand your family.
my grandmother is one of 12,,they managed? could you put a conservetery on the back and use that as a bedroom ,only trying to help
I know someone who has 4 boys in one bedroom and they seem to manage. You can't expect things to be handed to you on a plate I am afraid.
Write to the Ealing Council,If they can a house to an unmarried mother whose is a immigrant, they maybe able to help you.
Possibly you should have thought of this before 'expanding' your family, and not having the means to buy your own house?
hear hear, Super couldn't have put it any better and his answer mirrors my distaste for the parasites who prefer to leech off everyone else
Have you thought of housing exchange?
If you google it there are loads of schemes - here's a couple to get you started
I feel so damn sorry for you, there was 12 kids in my family and most of the time we had 3 or 4 cousins staying with us. In the summer months we moved our beds outside and battled the mosquitoes, rattlesnakes, coons and possums. Not once did my mom and dad ask people that had nothing to do with the size of our family for a bigger house. What the hell is this world coming to?
Gavmel you got it. If you can't afford a house you sure as hell can't afford kids. Why do people think they have a right to the pleasure of making babies, and then expect the taxpayer to pay for the raising of them?
It is hard living in a place that you feel is too small but at least you have a council house - you and your family have the sort of security you would never have in private rental properties! You have 3 bedrooms. Do you only have one sitting room or do you have a dining room as well. If you do, this could be turned into a bedroom.
In your situation, I would be finding a bed that could be made to look like a sofa in the living room and use that myself and then give the 15 year old and your daughter their own room, leaving the two younger boys together. Yes, it is hard but at least the two who need their own space would have it. As a mother you should know that your needs come last within the family. Having to sleep in the living room is something that many parents have to do. I don't know why you have four kids but I', going to take it for granted that your partner has either left you with the kids or there is a good reason why you are no longer together.
|f there are only 12 suitable houses in the area and they all have families in then what is the council supposed to do? It can't just conjour up a house for you. You will have to wait until one of these houses becomes available. Your MP and Shelter can't order the council to build you a property. You will have to be patient and manage until then.
How do i write a contract/ agreement between the tennents of a three bed house?
trying to write a contract/agreement between three parties who rent a house together which would make it so they were all legally bound to pay one third of the utilities as well as general house do's and dont's, also to ensure they all are required to provide not only the landlord but all other parties of their term of notice should they choose to leave. none of the parties are owner / landlord. landlord would not be involved in the agreement. any ideas?? don't want to pay for a lawyer and i have looked for document templates but can't find anything that is really relevant.How do i write a contract/ agreement between the tennents of a three bed house?
Use the contract with your landlord as your template. It's hard to answer this, since we don't know where you are, but your lease will have all the local laws in it. If that doesn't work, call an apartment complex and ask if you can see a copy of their standard lease. Good luck!
Use the contract with your landlord as your template. It's hard to answer this, since we don't know where you are, but your lease will have all the local laws in it. If that doesn't work, call an apartment complex and ask if you can see a copy of their standard lease. Good luck!
My husband thinks I am crazy for allowing my dogs in our bed, house, etc.?
I am a DOG LOVER. My husband thinks dogs are supposed to be outside. He says NOBODY brings there dogs inside and NOBODY allows them in there bed, etc. And I am crazy for treating them like ';kids'; when they are not. Can I get some HONEST opinions out there so I can see what other people think about this? Thanks!My husband thinks I am crazy for allowing my dogs in our bed, house, etc.?
In my opinion, people who keep their dogs outdoors are crazy...they are exposed to all sorts of weather, possible injury and disease, and nearly all outdoor dogs have behavior problems (from lack of contact with their owners). ALL of my friends and family keep their pets indoors, every one of them. I can't think of a single person I know who keeps their dog outdoors. It seems your husband is probably in the minority.
EDIT: I don't know what else I could say to convince your husband that dogs really DO belong in the house. I have 2 Golden Retreivers, an English Setter and a Toy Poodle. They are all house dogs, and I wouldn't even consider having it any other way...I can't see the point of bringing a companion animal (they are pack animals, and need to be with their pack...which is your family) home, and then depriving it of companionship. Dogs really can develop serious issues from loneliness.
Here are a few websites where you may be able to find some statistics to back up your argument: http://hsus.org/ http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer http://dogsdeservebetter.com/ Hope these help!My husband thinks I am crazy for allowing my dogs in our bed, house, etc.?
My dog is inside, or outside playing with me or otherwise supervised. He does not hang out outside by himself.
He also sleeps in the bed, but any dogs with any sort of dominance, territorial or behavioral issues should sleep in crates.
I'm pretty sure most people who have dogs, WANT dogs, not living lawn decor. Therefore, I'd feel the majority of dog owners allow them inside, on the sofa, or at least the rug.
Well I agree, our city even requires they be brought in on hot and cold days if no porch or good shelter and no chains allowed. And night barkers are fined also. If you check there fet are clean and no fleas and enough room it is not a problem. But if dog if a bed hog then like my cocker he gets banned to floor. My little dach just buries self and dont even know shes there most time. BUT in respect of husband if he is uncomfortable with it then work out something else. But dog beds are very nice and easily made. Some dogs are very happy outside and adjust fine. So its a family by family thing I guess. My husband grumbels but has adjusted on most part but I am one that cleans their mess and if they get in trash, whatever. *mamatx
In my opinion, people who keep their dogs outdoors are crazy...they are exposed to all sorts of weather, possible injury and disease, and nearly all outdoor dogs have behavior problems (from lack of contact with their owners). ALL of my friends and family keep their pets indoors, every one of them. I can't think of a single person I know who keeps their dog outdoors. It seems your husband is probably in the minority.
EDIT: I don't know what else I could say to convince your husband that dogs really DO belong in the house. I have 2 Golden Retreivers, an English Setter and a Toy Poodle. They are all house dogs, and I wouldn't even consider having it any other way...I can't see the point of bringing a companion animal (they are pack animals, and need to be with their pack...which is your family) home, and then depriving it of companionship. Dogs really can develop serious issues from loneliness.
Here are a few websites where you may be able to find some statistics to back up your argument: http://hsus.org/ http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer http://dogsdeservebetter.com/ Hope these help!My husband thinks I am crazy for allowing my dogs in our bed, house, etc.?
My dog is inside, or outside playing with me or otherwise supervised. He does not hang out outside by himself.
He also sleeps in the bed, but any dogs with any sort of dominance, territorial or behavioral issues should sleep in crates.
I'm pretty sure most people who have dogs, WANT dogs, not living lawn decor. Therefore, I'd feel the majority of dog owners allow them inside, on the sofa, or at least the rug.
Well I agree, our city even requires they be brought in on hot and cold days if no porch or good shelter and no chains allowed. And night barkers are fined also. If you check there fet are clean and no fleas and enough room it is not a problem. But if dog if a bed hog then like my cocker he gets banned to floor. My little dach just buries self and dont even know shes there most time. BUT in respect of husband if he is uncomfortable with it then work out something else. But dog beds are very nice and easily made. Some dogs are very happy outside and adjust fine. So its a family by family thing I guess. My husband grumbels but has adjusted on most part but I am one that cleans their mess and if they get in trash, whatever. *mamatx
HI Is anyone in Ashford Kent looking to house swap, mine 3 Bed house Tenant Manchester Tell 0161 2828 777
Hallo I live in a southway housing association 3 Bed house with chair lift, gardens to side large rear and drive way with carport, gas central heating in a very quite culdisack with 3 other privately owned houses, Ideal for home for the hard of walking, near all local supper markets and bus routes motorway links post code M19 1FW Manchester swap for simular in very sort after area in Kent Near ashford must be quite area, genuineTel Manchester UK on 0161 2828 777 and leave mesage with full detals of your house the type of area name of your land lord and your contact details ect Thanks. ohh and happy new year to all on hear XXHI Is anyone in Ashford Kent looking to house swap, mine 3 Bed house Tenant Manchester Tell 0161 2828 777
try craigslistHI Is anyone in Ashford Kent looking to house swap, mine 3 Bed house Tenant Manchester Tell 0161 2828 777
i would remove your phone number from the net
then i would get in touch with the housing associations in the area you wish to move to
they will have lists of people in the area who wish to take part in a mutual exchange programme
here they are
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sourceid=n鈥?/a>
try craigslistHI Is anyone in Ashford Kent looking to house swap, mine 3 Bed house Tenant Manchester Tell 0161 2828 777
i would remove your phone number from the net
then i would get in touch with the housing associations in the area you wish to move to
they will have lists of people in the area who wish to take part in a mutual exchange programme
here they are
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?sourceid=n鈥?/a>
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